Left or right? Liberal or socialistic?

[DarkAsmodeous]

and you assume that marxism is inherantly an autocracy, it is not.

[Cogidubnus]

I assume marxism has something to do with communism. I'm probably wrong.

[DarkAsmodeous]

Karl Marx is the father of communism, but the communism you know is most likeyl Lennin-Marxism, an abomination.

[Psychotic]

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
Karl Marx is the father of communism, but the communism you know is most likeyl Lennin-Marxism, an abomination.

Karl Marx isn't even the father of Marxism, as that is just a name given to his ideals and teachings some time after his death. Marx called his own methodological approach "historical materialism".
I dislike the word "communism" because people often give it a negative connotation. Communism should represent the practically established sociopolitical and economic system that Marx went on about in his work. When many people think of communism they think of the quasi-socialistic regimes that appeared in places like Russia and China.
Truth is communism never existed, but the word "communism" has been tarnished forever all the same... mostly because of failed systems and masquerading dictatorships.

[IAMTHEEMPEROR]

If you ask me, Communist China was more Facist than Communist as with many other countries at the time. Now, China is slowly becoming non-communist.

[Siegfried]

I'm a Republican hard-liner, socially conservative, with some libratarian leanings.

My problem with marxist ideas, is where in the world does the government get off redistributing wealth? I don't want some sleezy politicians throwing around my hard earned cash. If I want to be a good Samaritan I'll do it by my own accord and make sure I know where my money is going and what its being used for.

[DarkAsmodeous]

That, my friend, is a Rawlsian Society of Distributive Jutsice, NOT a communist society for a society based on marxist principles would not redistribute private property, but simply have it cease to exist. It also would have minum government control as ownership by deffinition is rights to control, thus in order for a government to be marxist it must have minimal control.

[TheImperialDragon]

Communism is in theory, the perfect utopia. Unfortunately, whenever they try it out, it gets corrupt rather quickly, and before you know it, everyone hates the new government, and it ends up sucking badly for everyone. I'll stick to one of my favorite Winston Churchill quotes here...

"... Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried ..."

- Winston Churchill - 11 November 1947

[DarkAsmodeous]

Ah, but all implementations of communism thus far have been through revolution, marx himself said in the maniffesto that violent revolution brings nothing, that it can only come about through disillusionment of a totalitarian government, or through slow progress of the ideas of the people through democracy.

[Mormacil]

I can't agree mor ethat communism have never been succesfully establest. I won't say a state based on marxism works, but I do think that our current world is over materialized and to fast as well, people relax