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- DragoonWraith - 03-14-2006
I think it's a pretty good idea, sounds decent. I like the house idea, personally. I'm thinking your stronghold ideas are too big - this is a quick, in-and-out operation, not some permanent installation hiding from the Khajiit. The Dunmer have raiding parties that dive across the border, steal some Khajiit, and run back to Morrowind. Getting caught in Elsweyr gets them killed, whether they're caught by Imperials or Khajiit - no one likes slavery, and especially not slavery, except the Dunmer. So more likely they'd look for some natural shelter, not build their own stronghold there. A cave seems most likely, if not just a camp some place.
- TheMann777 - 03-14-2006
Quote:Originally posted by DragoonWraith
I think it's a pretty good idea, sounds decent. I like the house idea, personally. I'm thinking your stronghold ideas are too big - this is a quick, in-and-out operation, not some permanent installation hiding from the Khajiit. The Dunmer have raiding parties that dive across the border, steal some Khajiit, and run back to Morrowind. Getting caught in Elsweyr gets them killed, whether they're caught by Imperials or Khajiit - no one likes slavery, and especially not slavery, except the Dunmer. So more likely they'd look for some natural shelter, not build their own stronghold there. A cave seems most likely, if not just a camp some place.
If we bring an Imperial mastermind into this, then the subtle hit-and-run operation could mutate into a complex kidnapping syndicate.
It is really a toss up, though. The hit-and-run seems more plausible, but I really think that if a (or some) corrupt Imperial(s) joined in to enrich themselves...
- DragoonWraith - 03-16-2006
I don't see any Imperial involvement as likely. Not saying that Imperials are "above" doing so, but the Dunmer are not exactly rich. While for the Dunmer, this could be a lucrative enterprise, for the Imperial who is going back to Cyrodiil where life is considerably more expensive, I don't think the return is worth the risk.
On the other hand, why would the Dunmer want the Imperials involved? It could easily be a trap - as a nation, the Imperials are very against slavery, and as a nation, especially among those who are into slavery, the Dunmer are just as much against the Imperials. The Dunmer have been very successfully mounting these operations for hundreds of years, even with the Imperials annexing Morrowind, once the slaves are in Morrowind, they're protected property, thanks to Vivec's infamous deal with Tiber Septim (which has significant effect on Elsweyr for completely different reasons, as well, as I have been discussing with Arsonide - Vivec gave Septim Numidium, which Tiber hid in the Hall of Collosus, Rimmen, just south of the Elsweyr border - the activation of Numidium apparently irradiated the area, and the Khajiit will not go there).
- Silver_leopard - 04-12-2006
In oblivion you overhear rumers that slaving in morrowind is banned and slaves freed. True that it could just be a rumer. Also a possibility that the Telvanni didin't buy into this idea and wen't underground to get there "property". That could make this quest (or dungon type)more exciting.
- DragoonWraith - 04-12-2006
If you look on the dates of this topic, every post before yours was before Oblivion was released. We didn't know slavery had been outlawed.
- gg_dave_thomas - 04-13-2006
Seems like a good idea, I think that there should be more than 5 slavers though.
It seems a little short to me...
- DragoonWraith - 04-14-2006
Please read the entirety of threads before posting. Thank you.
- gg_dave_thomas - 04-15-2006
Yeah, I did. No need to be rude.
- raggidman - 05-01-2006
There are a few things that might be considered:
although slavery has now been made illegal in Morrowind, would that stop the traditionalists?
it seems to me that the Telvanni are more slavery oriented than Redoran - even though a Redoran Stronghold would look fine, it is not the Redoran way to raid, they are more for policing. Another House that might be involved would be the Hlaluu;
if the major market fr slavey is failing, where else might slaves be sent - I am thinking Tsaesci and the other continent - so could the slave route lead to a secluded cove and a galleon?
what is the attitude of the Khajiit, those famous thieves, to criminality? What do they think of as criminal? It seems that you are going to have to create a very subtle approach to allow for this. If you do not, then you will miss the heart of the fun-loving, pleasureful, cruel vitality of the Khajiit peoples;
perhaps on reason the Khajiit did not use helms gloves and shoes in TES 3 was that they generally disdain property except as a transient thing, but their attitude to any knid of slavery might be truly ferocious. Would they imprison or execute by preference?
- KuKulzA - 05-01-2006
oh they hate slavery on their people... like the Argonians... infact the Remman Emperor advised by his Tsaesci Potente used a Khajit Warlord and an Argonian Battlechief to command his flanks when he invaded Morrowind.... very successfull till the massacre at Bodrums
I think the Sload might be good suspects, they have no problem with slaves, or with corpses...