The murdered baker quest

[SACarrow]

One more amusing sidenote regarding Babelfish; "Dolch" is the German word for "dagger", which I had to look up somewhere else. If you do English => German with "dagger", you will get "Dolch", but if you do German => English with "Dolch", you get "Dolch"...

Going to lie down now,
Steve

[bob196045]

This means the english (americans) dont know what a dolch is but the germans know what a dagger is

This does sound like a lying down situation

[Rincewind]

sacarrow asked me for a translation of Valderon's worksheet. My english ins't very good but it should work. There are some words i couldn't find a fitting translation. in those cases i simply translated literally.

Name of Quest: The murdered Baker, Status 0%
Questmaker in charge: Valderon

Chapters: Will follow...

Involved Characters:
1) The Baker
2) The Bakers? Wife
3) The Bakers? Son
4) The High Priest
5) The Doctor
6) The Doctor?s Daughter
7) The Farmer
8) The Barkeeper
9) The Alchemist
10) The Slave Trader
11) The Jeweller
12) The Guards Captain
13) The Old Woman

Involved Locations: Will follow...

Very short summary of the plot:
The player is sent to buy a bread for the old woman. He finds the baker murdered and reports to the guards. The guards tell the player not to investigate on his own. If the player decides to act against that he will find out that all of the above mentioned people except a few have dirty hands in this matter.

The story is taken from a German crime movie and is highly complicated, that makes it so interesting.

Note: I?ll write this story as it was told in the movie, so you won?t find out who the murderer is until I?ll write the last chapter

Reihenfolge:

:alert: buy bread, baker dead :check:
:alert: arrested, then free again :check:
:alert: talk Baker?s Wife & Son
---clue religion :check:
---clue dispute whole family :check:
:alert: talk Priest
---clue skittles club and regulars' table :check: ()
---clue problem son :check:
---clue doctor :check:
:alert: talk Barkeeper, Alchemist, slave trader, jeweller, guards captain
---only smalltalk, blabla :check:
---"reprimand" by guard captain no more investigation :check:
:alert: talk doctor
---clue second wound / knoked out by a woman :check:
---meet doctors daughter :check:
:alert: talk Baker?s Wife & Son
---confront Wife with clue "knoked out by a woman" :check:
---Wife admit assault but denies murder :check:
---son accuses his mother of murder because of adultery with Slave Trader :check:
---mother accuses her son of murder because of debts/ heritage :check:
:alert: talk Slave Trader
---while opening the door: "loud scream / threat on someons's life inside the house" :check:
---Farmer runs out of the house and goes away :check:
---clue that Farmer is crazy, no comment about threat :check:
---admits affair with baker's wife :alert:
:alert: talk farmer
---clue baker's heir -> farmers farm to Yvette
---Yvette wants to sell the farm to slave trader
---slave trader wants to fire farmer
---clue "I've started to defend me"
:alert: talk slave trader
---slave trader lies on the floor, heavy wounded, (very expensive) dagger in the back
---he asks for help / dector
---clue toward farmer
:alert: talk doctor
---doctor instantly walks towards slave trader and saves his live
---slave trader is moved into hospital
---clue by doctor: farmer often
:alert: talk farmer
---denys act (of course!)
---clue: he's to poor for such an expensiv dagger
---clue: dead baker wantet to allow farmer to live on on the farm (no reason for murder)
---clue: bakers son wanted to sell farm to slave trader, farmer wantet to scare slave trader
---clue: bakers son also theatened but no serious intention
:alert: talk bakers son
---confirmation that farmer threatened him
---confirmation that baker wanted to allow farmer to live on on the farm
---(wrong) clue: baker and farmer argued about rent
:alert: imprisonment player
---reason: he continued his investigation
---in the cell: clue by guard captain: Alchemist also murdered
---player is released by a guard lieutenant in the night
---clue: guard captain is involved but no proof
---mission: find proofs in captains house
:alert: break into captains house
---clue: half burned note inside fireplace "Baker wants to confess..."
---clue: collection of expensive daggers on the wall
:alert: talk Guard Lieutenant
---show proofs
---mission: find out waht the baker wanted to confess
---clue: aks people near the captain
:alert: talk Priest and/or bakers wife
---clue: captain, baker, slave trader, alchemist & jeweller often met at night
---clue: they were all friends
---clue: neetings in the backroom of Laebrylla?s inn
:alert: talk Laebrylla
---confirms meetings
---clue: last week party in hunting lodge
---clue: help-waitress brougt drinks to the lodge
---clue: guar service used
---knwos only the firs name of help-waitress because only worked for short time
:alert: talk guar service
---clue: confirms, young girl brougt to lodge, but guar service hadn't waited
---doesn't know girl but can discribe her
:alert: search for girl
---name and discription fits for doctors daught
---because player only spoke two times to bakers daughter it will take longer now
---make generic dialoge "i don't know, never seen"
---Guard Lieutenant can give you key-clue
:alert: talk doktors daughter
---isn't able to answer questions
:alert: talk doctor
---ask for leaving his daughter alone
---doctor doesn't know whats up with his daughter
---clue: daughters friend is bakers son, ask him


:alert: SPOILER

----------------- snip ------------------------



:alert: gespr?ch b?ckersohn
---hinweis: arzttochter wurde vergewaltigt
---hinweis: t?ter sind jeweller, slave trader, alchemist
---hinweis: b?cker war zwar dabei, wollte aber vergewaltigung verhindern
---hinweis: vorfall wurde an guards captain gemeldet

:alert: gespr?ch guards lieutenant
---vortrag der ermittlungen
---lieutenant pr?ft die beweise und bittet spieler am n?chsten tag wiederzukommen
---keine weiteren ermittlungen um keinen verdacht zu erregen

:alert: gespr?ch n?chster tag guard lieutenant
---lieutenant teilt mit, da? captain in haft weil er tat der freunde vertuschen wollte
---hinweis: es muss verbindung zwischen der vergewaltigung und den morden geben
---auftrag: vergewaltiger mit beweisen konfontieren, dann kl?rt sich der rest

:alert: gespr?ch jeweller
---konfrontation mit den beweisen
---hinweis/drohung an jeweller das alle beteiligten der Vergewaltigung derzeit ermordet werden
---jeweller gibt nach und l?sst sich (zum eigenen schutz) in haft nehmen

:pop: Vergewaltigung der Arzttochter gel?st

:alert: Kampf arzt / slave trader
---beim eintreffen I'm hospital befinden sich arzt und trader I'm kampf, der arzt mit einem teuren dolch bewaffnet
---der spieler schreitet ein und ?berw?ltigt den arzt
---auf frischer tat ertappt gesteht der arzt den mord am alchemist als rache f?r die vergewaltigung seiner tochter
---ebenso gesteht er die mordversuche am slave trader
---den mord am b?cker hat er nicht begangen

:pop: Mord am alchemisten und mordversuch am Slave Trader gekl?rt

:alert: Einer kommt noch, aber ersma pause...

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i know, the last part is still missing. i will translate this when i have time again.

[SACarrow]

Rincewind,

Thanks a lot for this starting translation. Good luck in getting back to Ankh-Morpork.

Thanks,
Steve

[bob196045]

It still doesn't make sense to me

But Im slow
:lmao:

[SACarrow]

Any of our Teutonic colleagues know the name of the move that this quest was based upon? I tried all sorts of Google searches with "German", "movie" "doctor" "daughter" and all sorts of other words, but no luck.

Thanks,
Steve

[bob196045]

Das Verm?chtnis der B?ckerstochter

The Legacy of the Bakers Daughter ???? ( a guess)

[Stilgar]

Das Verm?chtnis der B?ckerstochter?

No. I don't think that's the german title of this story because this is a title of german (very short) parody (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2279190/1/) of "National Treasure", german title: "Das Verm?chtnis der Tempelritter".

@sacarrow:
Sorry I can't made a better translation because the german version isn't much better

[Rincewind]

Originally posted by Stilgar
@sacarrow:
Sorry I can't made a better translation because the german version isn't much better

I take this as compliment.

[bob196045]

Thanks Stilgar

Das Verm?chtnis der B?ckerstochter <<<<< It was a good guess

But I don't get your meaning Stilgar, are you saying that the title of this story is "Das Verm?chtnis der Tempelritter".
or is that something else

If this is it then we can translate from it yes?



Bob