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Been there - done that Frown
What needs to be done is to find the problem and fix that, not re-do everything since the problem occurred.
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Been there - done that Frown
What needs to be done is to find the problem and fix that, not re-do everything since the problem occurred.

Yes I know, but truth be told I have no idea what it might be.
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Here is the fix

You can't use two .esm's at the same time

The new .esm overides the land data of the OB .esm
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Here is the fix

You can't use two .esm's at the same time

The new .esm overides the land data of the OB .esm

I can't load HG as an .esp as I've already mentioned.
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Psychotic, send it back to TOYB. Maybe he has a solution.
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Psychotic, send it back to TOYB. Maybe he has a solution.

I'll upload it later tonight.
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Great! I should be able to take a look at it tomorrow evening. Could I also get the version TOYB sent you? Maybe I can spot something by comparing the two.
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Great! I should be able to take a look at it tomorrow evening. Could I also get the version TOYB sent you? Maybe I can spot something by comparing the two.

Sure.
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Did you accidently make it dependent on let's say the SkyrimResourceMaster.esm because if you did it would cause the same problem.

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Did you accidently make it dependent on let's say the SkyrimResourceMaster.esm because if you did it would cause the same problem.

No.
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Hmmm, the file I sent you is working fine, maybe it got corrupted when you were working on it or maybe it got corrupted when I sent it to you.

This is puzzling Confused Confused Confused
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...OR my OB installation is so screwed up that the problem of not loading the .esp only occurs for me. What would be "funny" is if I can play HG once we release it. Bash Why is there no suicide smiley here?! <--- rhetorical
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Don't stress, guys, it'll get sorted out - eventually. =)
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Psyshotic to you think you could make a custom quest icon for all the HG quest to use, preferbly something like a snowflake or something Skyrimish, as currently the quests don't have any.
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Psyshotic to you think you could make a custom quest icon for all the HG quest to use, preferbly something like a snowflake or something Skyrimish, as currently the quests don't have any.

There was a guy that advertised about this somewhere in the common room I think (or maybe it was The Tavern?), he was willing to make quest icons for any project so you could ask him... I'm sorry I can't be more specific, the thread was posted some time ago. If there are no other willing candidates for this I guess I'll have to find the time and do them myself.

Edit: Ok here is the latest HG .esp.

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Well I guess I could do it, if you really don't want to.

But I really shouldn't be taking on any more work at the moment...
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I checked both esp's. They both work. Now, I'll start adding the new meshes and textures from Psychotic's update. I'm guessing that one of the meshes has a bad file pointer (easy fix.)

edit: just finished testing the armor and clothing - and I couldn't find an error (sorry, Psychotic :D - seems it's your install.) As long as I have the files, I'll put in some of the "stuff" I have lying around. I'll put up a new version Sat. for anyone who wants to check it out.

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Could you put Cyro's Bonemold helmet in for the Dunmer guards, and could you also take a shot at doing some of the unfinished RAI and pathgrids? If so that would be great.

Also here is the quest marker, if you want another then I would be happy to make one. :)

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I'll do what I can. :) Shouldn't be a problem, though.
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After a beautiful autumn day working in the yard, I'm finally able to sit down and put some time in on this.

Check errr - Psychotic, could you redo the Haerter's Gap sign? You spelled it wrong. Eek 1 - Anyway, the signs are in; just needs the retex.

Check Guide to Haerter's Gap is in. Took a while to sprinkle copies throughout Cyrodiil.

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Check errr - Psychotic, could you redo the Haerter's Gap sign? You spelled it wrong. Eek 1 - Anyway, the signs are in; just needs the retex.

There aren't enough "stupid" smiles with which to express myself in this moment. I will redo it ASAP.
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I was trying to make Flesh's trees work, and came across the (or "a") solution to the snow bear cuirass. Invisible body parts indicate a missing normal map. - just wanted to share that. As far as the trees go, I made a .dds texture out of his 3 .tga textures - and got leaves! Now I just have to figure out how to get the bark to show up.
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Hmm... I somehow don't think it's the _n maps that make the cuirass invisible in-game. Heywood mentioned something on this subject, maybe you could PM him.

Speaking of PMs, I PMd you the fixed HG sign post. Yes
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Got it! Thanks. I've got to shut down for a bit - I think I overloaded my comp, and now it's very confused. Confused

Ok - everything's fine now. And here's an in-game pic of Flesh's

Colorado Blue Spruce

Check The bark needs a .dds texture with a normal map to work. . . . . The tree is fair. I think it needs a good texturer *coughPsychoticCough*, but it'll do for the time-being.

Has anyone checked out Haerter in-game? I mean the statue. He turns and talks to you!!! :lmao: - and has a quest crown! I think I'll leave him that way. He's good for a laughl Good job!

And here is the latest update.

I'll be able to work again on this again about Thursday. In the meantime, I'll try to get Flesh's 2 other trees game-ready in my spare(?) time.

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The trees should only be used on the lower slopes, as where Haerter's Gap is you wouldn't get anything growing there.
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If you(se) like, I could make some voice-acted statements for that statue -- kinda silly comments based on the race/sex of the player: e.g. praise/welcome for Nord players, scorn for Dunmer...not unlike Valen Dreth...

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um, Qxzyz the statue isn't ment to be talking :lmao:
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um, Qxzyz the statue isn't ment to be talking :lmao:

But if it DID talk it would really make the player scratch his head.

Haerter's Statue:
"Go back to Morrowind... Dunmer scum!"

Dunmer:
"Hey who said that!? Hmm... I'm beginning to hear things... damn Nordic mead."

:D
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That's _exactly_ where I was going with it, Psychotic! :D

Ah well...just a thought...

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Yeah, sorry Qxzyz. We'll fix it rather than enhance it.

btw, anyone going to work on the file this week?
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I think Smokindan needs to finish a couple more quests. Where are you at with the .esp Grey?
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I uploaded the latest version Sat night, with all of the latest textures and meshes. Again, the link is here.

I won't have time to work on it until Thursday at the earliest, so if SD wants to work on quests or TOYB on RAI and pathgrids or you want to put the voices in - or whatever - just leave a note for everyone so that we don't have 2 people working on the .esp at the same time.
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Sorry, no idea how I missed that.

Sadjev is the one who did the statue script, but I guess he didn't test it. Haven't seen him around for a while though, he had some exams to study for the last I heard. We might ask another scripter to take a look at the script, but no one comes to mind. Confused
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I'll work on the file, but I need quest bugs for all the quests besides "Markers, What Markers" and "Sins of a Dunmer" before I go on. I'd rather get them all finalised than start working on finishing the above two.

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Anyone mind if I hunt for bugs in the most recent .esp? Should I wait for the next version?

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Have at it, Ducky! =) I only posted the warning in case several people decided to change the .esp at the same time. I've found out (mostly the hard way) that there are a lot more problems trying to merge files than there are benefits. In fact, the only files that seem to merge with no problems are those that have no common content.
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Okey dokey. Any objections if I modify the latest .esp?

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Since I see no objections, go for it. Good job!
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Is Cyro's bonemold helm in yet?
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Hey guys its Ebony I got some questions on Haerter's Gap.

1. Is it a town or a business/military outpost?

2. Is it owned by Nords/dummer/or Imperials

3. What kind of quests can we expect from within this village?

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