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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
here are the lower class homes 1-3 and the inn you have 7 days to download it HERE

Why not use FileFront?

22.08.2006 03:24

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

Well, I've just been trying to upload at FilePlanet, and their server keeps resetting.

I've got the new roofs. Thanks!

Guess I'll try FileFront - tomorrow; it's late. - 'nite.

22.08.2006 03:31

The Old Ye Bard
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Registration Date: 25.05.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
here are the lower class homes 1-3 and the inn you have 7 days to download it HERE

I don't understand, why are you retexing the houses? They didn't need a retex I don't think.....?

22.08.2006 06:10

Green @nt1-n00b
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Nor do I but I did find a better looking texture for the roofs as well as dare I say it I normal maped em for yas

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22.08.2006 06:14

Smokindan
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quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
here are the lower class homes 1-3 and the inn you have 7 days to download it HERE

I don't understand, why are you retexing the houses? They didn't need a retex I don't think.....?

I think when he said homes he meant the roofs on those homes...

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22.08.2006 13:29

Psychotic
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Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by Smokindan

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
here are the lower class homes 1-3 and the inn you have 7 days to download it HERE

I don't understand, why are you retexing the houses? They didn't need a retex I don't think.....?

I think when he said homes he meant the roofs on those homes...

Exactly.

22.08.2006 15:24

The Old Ye Bard
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Registration Date: 25.05.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Originally posted by Smokindan

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
here are the lower class homes 1-3 and the inn you have 7 days to download it HERE

I don't understand, why are you retexing the houses? They didn't need a retex I don't think.....?

I think when he said homes he meant the roofs on those homes...

Exactly.

Why did the roofs need a retex?

22.08.2006 21:21

Green @nt1-n00b
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Every one sheish I only rextexed the *ROOFS*

Yes I dont know why he wanted them retexed myself but I did find a better looking texture for the roofs

you guys are going about as Crazy as a bunch of drunken Nords with hot wax being poured down their pants

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22.08.2006 22:39

Psychotic
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Registration Date: 30.07.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Green @nt1-n00b
you guys are going about as Crazy as a bunch of drunken Nords with hot wax being poured down their pants

You're not getting any of my Mead!

23.08.2006 02:17

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

Now, this is ridiculous! FilePlanet seems to be down and FileFront is down for maintenance. Mad

Greenie, I'm about to try your "yousendit"

23.08.2006 04:23

Green @nt1-n00b
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cool it is also awsome if you wanto make a secret thing for your mod so no one knows that you made it untill its realsed. have fun sure it only last for 7 days but for some uploads you dont realy need more and you can upgrade to the 30 day version too. and not only that but you can send a download link right to someones e-mail adress or just your own if you want.

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23.08.2006 04:47

The Old Ye Bard
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No one ever asked for the Roofs of the buildings to be Retexed, they didn't need it. The Roof retex that was needed was for the Skingrad castle pieces, I think you got a little bit confused Green @nt1-n00b Wink

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23.08.2006 04:51

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
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If FilePlanet resets one more time . . . Chaos

I may have to email beta 3 to you. Confused

. . . and it just reset. Confused

I'm done for the night.

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23.08.2006 04:56

The Old Ye Bard
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Could you Email the latest beta to me?

23.08.2006 05:01

Psychotic
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Registration Date: 30.07.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Greybeard
Mad

If FilePlanet resets one more time . . . Chaos

I may have to email beta 3 to you. Confused

. . . and it just reset. Confused

I'm done for the night.

Try FileFactory (just Google it).

23.08.2006 05:02

Green @nt1-n00b
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quote:

Originally posted by Greybeard
The houses are: BrumaHouseLower01,02,03,Inn. They might all use the same texture file. Don't go overboard with the snow, just make them somewhat similar to the Farmhouses with snow.

I Do Belive that the confused one was actualy Greybeard

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23.08.2006 05:02

Smokindan
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Registration Date: 13.06.2006
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TOYB, do you want me to add a guard to the Skyrim Office who checks you for illegal goods or substances?

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23.08.2006 09:35

The Old Ye Bard
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Yep, illeagal items should be dwemer armour, glass, elven, and skoma.

If found the Pc should have the choice of returning once they have gotten rid of the items or having them put in a chest for pick up at a later date. Also if the PC has a bounty they shouldn't be able to continue through to Skyrimuntil they have gotten it taken it.

23.08.2006 09:41

Smokindan
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I think having chest to keep your stuff in is too much of a scripting problem. I'm just thinking about Hauk (the guard) saying "Please dispose of these goods, otherwise entry will be forbidden into Skyrim" Not exactly that but you get my point.

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23.08.2006 11:47

Sadjev
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Registration Date: 21.08.2006
Posts: 22
Location: Sweden

Well having read your forums instead of studying for my exams (excellent distraction btw) I might as well try to make a contribution

Smokidan: I dont think the permanent chest necessarily is much of a scripting problem. Simply add a couple of containers (storage boxes, much like at a train station) and make one of them persistent and locked by a key.

Then have the customs officer offer you the option of renting a storage container for some amount of gold. If you do so you get a key to the persistent container and you can use it to store your dwemer equipment and what not.

23.08.2006 13:44

Smokindan
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Posts: 813
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quote:

Originally posted by Sadjev
Well having read your forums instead of studying for my exams (excellent distraction btw) I might as well try to make a contribution

Nice idea, Sadjev

And, Welcome to Skyrim for Oblivion!!

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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
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23.08.2006 13:53

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

Here you go Sadjev! Welcome to Skyrim for Oblivion!

23.08.2006 15:19

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

Welcome Sadjev!

It's good to have you on board. I see you're pretty familiar with the CS and some of the "challenges" of the game. Could you give us a bit more info on yourself and what you enjoy doing (modelling, texturing, scripting, modding . . .)? Or are you like most of us here, and putter with whatever needs doing?

And I'll try FileFactory this evening. Otherwise, everyone expect to get a 14 meg email. Yes

TOYB and Smokindan, you're on the list. Anyone else who wants the working copy, PM me or post a reply here.

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23.08.2006 18:22

Psychotic
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Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

I'll upload the Nordic Silver weapon set very soon (just need to do the icons), hopefully you can include that too. The guards can use some of the weapons and some can be for sale perhaps.

23.08.2006 18:39

Sadjev
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Registration Date: 21.08.2006
Posts: 22
Location: Sweden

Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

Unfortunely I?m currently pretty short on free time but I will gladly lend a hand when/if I can. Just don't expect me to take any large claims atm. As for being experienced with the CS, not really

. I've only messed about a bit in it, mainly famililarised myself with how the scripting is structured and stuff like that.

Greybeard asked so here is a short bit about me:
25 y.o. student from Sweden, majoring in software engineering / engineering physics and currently trying to finish up my Master's (thus the lack of free time).

My main interest would probably be scripting but time permitting I would happily try my hand at quest building or doing some smaller settlement.

Unfortunely I know very little about 3d modeling and texturing Frown

Anyways if you need some script written feel free to send me a PM or mail, but don't expect me to tackle anything large atm

23.08.2006 21:24

The Old Ye Bard
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Registration Date: 25.05.2006
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Well if you had a tad bit of small time you could help out Smokindan with making the quests for HG, because at the moment it's only him on his lonsome.

23.08.2006 21:35

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

FINALLY!
I couldn't get FilePlanet to take the file (it kept stopping after 6-8 meg.) But I tried FileFront after it came up from maintenance, and here's the new version. The dialogue and some of the quest stuff has problems, and I'm not sure if they were there initially or if the modmerge program gets confused or if I messed something up when I merged the files. (Yeah, I'm still on a learning curve.) One thing you'll notice right away when you play is that the dialogue pops on and off too fast. We'll either have to get the voice acting in or get a "soundless" sound file to make the dialogue stay on the screen longer.

Haerter's Gap beta 03

(Be prepared to wait several minutes for the download to start.)

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24.08.2006 02:23

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

Whoopy!!!

About the dialog, what exactly are the problems?

Btw, I finished and fixed the Nordic Silver weapons.

24.08.2006 02:36

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

When I load the .esp in the CS, I get 8 similar errors about non-permanent references. Ingame, I get the dialogue ID in the dialogue box instead of a comment like "White Witch." I expect I can fix them, but since this is our first "learning" mod, I'd like to find out why these things are happening and how to avoid them in the future.

24.08.2006 02:51

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

Maybe you could ask Smokindan about this.

24.08.2006 02:53

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

Yeah, I'm going to have him put his quests directly into the main file so that he can edit and tweak them at his leasure.

24.08.2006 02:56

Smokindan
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Registration Date: 13.06.2006
Posts: 813
Location: Western Australia, Australia

quote:

Originally posted by Greybeard
When I load the .esp in the CS, I get 8 similar errors about non-permanent references. Ingame, I get the dialogue ID in the dialogue box instead of a comment like "White Witch." I expect I can fix them, but since this is our first "learning" mod, I'd like to find out why these things are happening and how to avoid them in the future.

I'll take a look. I may have missed some topics because you have to rename them from the initial ID you give them.

I'm not too sure about permanent references. I'll check them out as well.

EDIT: No worries about the topics. Just had to rename them.

The reference errors were because Haerter's Ghost wasn't a permanent reference. The "GetIsID" for Tjernagel wasn't working either and Tjernagel was male for some reason (it's meant to be a she...) Anyway, I've PMed you Greybeard, but if you see this first: do you want me working off the beta 03 .esp as an active file? The problem is: there are duplicates. I activate my Census etc. .esp and the beta 03 .esp so I can combine them and there are a heap of interior cells duplicated. Would you like me to delete the ones I don't need? Or create a new .esp and put my two quests in?

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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
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24.08.2006 08:02

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
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That's where I spend most of my time - deleting dup's. It's not so bad with the int's, but sometimes the dialogues and items,etc., get duplicated as well, that that's a little trickier to delete. That's why I'd like you and TOYB to work right in the HG .esp when putting in the quests and dialogue. Oh, and

Make lots of backups.

I've learned that one often.

24.08.2006 11:14

Smokindan
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Clicky

Here's an early version. Could you download this, GB, or someone else to see if I'm doing the right thing? I deleted all the cells which didn't have added things like NPCs or items for quests, deleted items which weren't in use (the duplicate versions) and modified some quest stuff. I used the Oblivion .esm as my only master so it should be ok.

EDIT: Another way you might want me to do it is to load up the beta 03 .esp and just remake the two quests I have in my other plugin...

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I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
->Sir Winston Churchill

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24.08.2006 12:40

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
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SD, the second way seems to work better. It seems that no matter how you work with the .esm, you'll get duplicates, especially with the int's. It seems like the CS saves almost random data with new ID's. I'll download and look at it after work if you'd like (and no one else does it first.)

/rant: It's one of the reasons why I think that Beth released a crippled CS. I can't believe that they were paying 50 or so modders to work with such a bucky program. I can just imagine what it'll be like when we work on an entire provence! Eek 1

/end:rant

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24.08.2006 17:47

The Old Ye Bard
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Registration Date: 25.05.2006
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I'm going to be able to spend my whole weekend working on the project

24.08.2006 21:38

Smokindan
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 13.06.2006
Posts: 813
Location: Western Australia, Australia

quote:

Originally posted by Greybeard
SD, the second way seems to work better. It seems that no matter how you work with the .esm, you'll get duplicates, especially with the int's. It seems like the CS saves almost random data with new ID's. I'll download and look at it after work if you'd like (and no one else does it first.)

/rant: It's one of the reasons why I think that Beth released a crippled CS. I can't believe that they were paying 50 or so modders to work with such a bucky program. I can just imagine what it'll be like when we work on an entire provence! Eek 1

/end:rant

OK, second way it is then

EDIT: Hmmm, a problem. TOYBs Skyrim Office needs to be in my .esp (and I can't copy and paste from my other plugin.) I can put in dialogue specifically for the NPCs in there but then someone has to put conditions (just the GetIsID ones for specific NPCs) in and the interior by merging.

Like I said before dupes are nasty so I don't really want to do it...unless you want to merge it and give me a new .esp, Greybeard?

I can give you a version with most of the dialogue copied and pasted and you can merge the Office in?

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25.08.2006 01:12

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

I can't Dwnld the latest beta, filefront is having problems it keeps saying there is something wrong with the file that I'm trying to Dwnld...

25.08.2006 23:26

Greybeard
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Registration Date: 21.05.2006
Posts: 721
Location: Shannara

Apparently filefront only allows downloads for 48 hours?! I tried to download the silver weapons set and got the same message. Frown

I've got to find a more reliable and accessable place!!!

26.08.2006 00:13

Psychotic
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Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by Greybeard
Apparently filefront only allows downloads for 48 hours?! I tried to download the silver weapons set and got the same message. Frown

I've got to find a more reliable and accessable place!!!

Did you try FileFactory?

26.08.2006 00:14

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